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Thread Title: What Happened to Emily?  [Feature]
Created On September 10, 2005 1:06 PM
  What Happened to Emily? - Godspy
  What Happened to Emily? - solomon
  What Happened to Emily? - spknarr
  What Happened to Emily? - pld59
  What Happened to Emily? - snapshot
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Godspy

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September 10, 2005 1:06 PM

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'The Exorcism of Emily Rose' is a well-crafted, creepy film that explores profound questions about the nature of God. Does He exist? Do you really want to know?

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December 21, 2005 10:03 AM

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Living in a universe and world that is so unpredictable as to science as well as the spiritual realm. We need to be very careful as to our opinions as to the creation of the world; human beings and the existance of a higher being we know as God. I can respect the different beliefs as to religion but we often miss that there is an underline truth, whether there is a difference in religious practice, rituals or even what science can prove! Really both compliment each other whereas relgion present values and science present facts, but it all points back to God. Now honestly I haven't seen the movie as of yet, but I have read the reviews and it troubles me how we totally depend on science to give us our answers. This movie of course reminds me of the ''Exorcist'' and how can we believe in God but excuse the fact that He has enemies, especially if you are a believer! I am presenting my view as a Christ believer or Christian, and I do believe in ''influence'' by the enemy and I hope that I never witness anything of this nature. I have seen whereas satan can influence us in subtle ways and the ultimate goal is to carry out his work!. Maybe what happened to Emily as one author disclosed in paraphrasing ''maybe it will draw us closer to God''! If man can only travel so far in the universe and go so deep in the ocean we really haven't touched the surface in understanding the spiritual realm.

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December 23, 2005 2:07 PM

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I have just viewed the movie. I do not know 'What happened to Emily' but I do know that Satan is 'The Great Deciever' and works in more subtle ways than this 'In Your Face Hollywood theory". Demons wish to possess people and dwell in them, not be cast out, so they remain behind the scenes doing Satan's work mostly without our knowledge. I also do not beleive one can be possessed without giving the demon(s) an open door or invitation and can be cast out of the person if the person wishes the demon to go. The only way a demon can be cast out is when a true child of God uses the name of Jesus. The Bible tells us that satan and his angels (demons) must obey God and will flee when the name of Jesus is used against them. When this is not successful is when the person possessed does not want to be free of the spirits. If you choose to beleive or not beleive what I say (from the Bible) does not matter, it is still a fact and all will know when we die and cross over to our individual eternities in Heaven or Hell.

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December 29, 2005 2:38 PM

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I have watched this film two times now in an effort to understand certain issues, and questions, that this movie inspires. (I have also seen the Exorcist several times.) I believe the ending was quite appropriate. Clearly, if one believes in God, one must believe that Satan also exists. However, the film, being produced by an agnostic, could not ever presume to answer the question(s) of why God does, or does not, allow "things" to happen. Only God can answer these questions. Therefore, the film, in my opinion, is constant (ie: scientific theory vs. spiritual theory; belief vs. non-belief vs. I don't know). It also pits believer against believer (the prosecuting attorney (a man of faith) and Father Moore) and illustrates the difference, or levels, of belief between different people, or faiths, in general. While the Christian faiths' create a list of certain criteria that must be met in order to be "possessed", I disagree. I believe that possession is what it is; possessed. While I am sure that there are true instances of possession, I am also sure that there are those who truly are mentally challenged and who only believe they are possessed, but are not. I do not pretend to have any answers to the questions offered in these types of movies. That would be presumptuous on my part and would, in my mind, be an act of hubris. All I know is that I deeply believe in God, and in Christ. And with them, as well as through them, all "things" are possible, whether they be natural, preternatural or supernatural. This film serves to strengthen my faith, as did the Exorcist.

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January 01, 2006 10:15 PM

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I read the book, "The Exorcism of Anneliese Michel," by non-Catholic anthropoligist Felicitas Goodman, before seeing the film. I presume director Scott Derrickson based his production on this book, which I encourage all viewers to read BEFORE seeing the film, but even afterwards as well. Because I had the facts of the case from Goodman, I was quite disappointed in the movie. As I told everyone, "Just like Hollywood to take the real story -- which would make an excellent movie someday -- and turn it into something else...inventing things like the 'courtroom (and off-courtroom) drama' between the defense attorney and the prosecutor, which is fantasy; showing how the defense attorney became a target, too, of the demons (her finding a medal in the snow is pure fantasy, too) etc. to distract the viewer from the real drama of the case." Then my wife and I got the DVD and watched it -- or, rather, tried to. Would you believe, right when the priest began his testimony, the picture froze on my screen and the sound stopped! Every second or two after that, the picture advanced a tiny bit but eventually went completely haywire. My wife immediately said "It's the Devil!" and ran to get the holy water. She sprinkled it on the TV, me and the entire room, but to no avail. Soooo...we never got to see the rest of it. I fast-forwarded until the sound returned but by then Anneliese had been buried already. In her book, Goodman argued that the medicine she was taking was responsible for the failure of the exorcisms. She based her book on almost a thousand pages of evidence and testimony provided by the defense lawyer, including more than 40 tape recordings of all the exocism sessions. Her theory so impressed the lawyer that she was convinced she could get the verdict overturned if she could get the convicted (which included not just the priest, but Anneliese's parents, family and friends...all those who assisted at the exorcisms) to agree to a new trial. Unfortunately, they refused. The trauma was too great for them to go through again. Can't blame them, but it's a shame the truth will never come out and their names cleared. My main reason for wanting to comment on the film and the story is to propose my own theory, to wit: it wasn't the medicine but the new, revised Vat. II exorcism rite, which was written by "experts" who had never seen an exorcism or performed one. Rome's own famous exorcist, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, explained why he thinks the new rite is worthless in a June 2001 interview in the magazine 30 DAYS, which is must-reading for anyone who wants to hear from a man who has performed thousands of exorcisms. Read Goodman's book and Fr. Amorth's scathing criticism and tell me what you think. By the way, thanks to this review and the knowledge that Scott is a fan of Chesterton (my favorite book is Orhtodoxy, too) and in gratitude to him for depicting a real, honest-to-goodness Catholic priest, I plan to see the movie again. All the way through, I hope! Richard.

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February 11, 2006 2:45 PM

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I want to inform anyone who read my January comments that my theory about why Anneliese's exorcism failed (because the new defective rite was used) fails the test. I found out recently that the new rite wasn't promulgated until 1999. So Dr. Goodman's answer must be the correct one.

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